This is per an interview Gunn gave to People this week, in which he talked about feeling “initially devastated, then kind of humiliated” when he found out that producers of the new version of the show explicitly didn’t want him back in any major capacity.

You won’t see Tim Gunn telling fashion designers to “make it work” on Freeform ’s upcoming Project Runway revival. Gunn, who long served as mentor to the show’s contestants, revealed he wasn’t invited to join returning host Heidi Klum in Runway ’s new iteration.

According to Tim Gunn, the iconic Project Runway cohost was not asked back for the show’s reboot.

Freeform, Disney+, and Hulu didn’t make it work for Tim Gunn to return to the Project Runway revival alongside Heidi Klum. In a new interview, Gunn revealed he was not asked back to mentor the designers in the competition reality series.